Instead of filtering keywords this ranks the content using Pangram. But it's also pretty effective at filtering content about AI. Turns out that a lot of LLM tooling projects have LLM written project descriptions/blog posts.
It's amazing to see how many of the "AI hurts my brain" posts are apparently written by an LLM.
The AI spam is part of the issue, but not only. Maybe it's rose tinted glasses, but it feel like HN posts and comments quality have dropped significantly compared to ~5 to 10 years ago.
It used to have a lot more really technical subjects, with comments from experts on the topic.
Now days it seems to be a lot more of "hot takes with little nuance from people who have read at most half a Wikipedia page on the topic". And the content itself, being more generalist and less specialized, is no longer unique to HN.
Quality posts and comments do still occur, but they fill more and more needle in an haystack.
I quite like this, particularly that the filter is just a preset! Will be back.
Minor UI feedback - when navigating comments (and maybe other stuff) with the keyboard, the actual focus change is blocked behind some automated scroll behavior, and the effect is that someone quickly hitting keybinds will collapse the wrong thread. Would suggest making the focus change happen concurrently.
Would if be possible to set up push notifications for new stories matching a filter - one that's separate to the main filter? Like say, I want to get notified every time an article about "Linux" is posted. But if I go to main page, I want to see all stories (or whatever my main filter is set to).
It looks nice but I can't load any comments, and I believe it's because I have Firefox's Enhanced Tracking Protection turned on to the strictest level.
There is also the hide button under every post, which I’ve started using generously. It only takes a few seconds to clean up the front page to your taste
Just a few high level points about how this works. It works in multiple stages:
1. I apply a domain and keyword filter to the feed
2. The content of the remaining articles are run twice daily through a Modern Bert-based classifier fine-tuned to detect AI-related content (~8000 training examples)[0].
It also filters out Github repos that contain AI authorship. My backend scans:
- Commit messages for agent attribution
- The contributor graph for agents
- Repo files for instructions/configs
0: The original workflow for this was a little different. For the better part of the past year, I had an AI agent detect AI-related stories and raise ~20 stories to me to make a judgement call on. After a while, a workflow like this just doesn't make sense when small models can do it equally as well. The training data is based on the machine and my labeling.
I know you guys hate X/Twitter but the muted words feature is really awesome for this kind of thing. You never have to hear about a topic you don't give a crap about ever again.
For Hacker News without AI, can I suggest the domain of news.ycombntor.com ?
If you prefer something closer to the original layout: https://www.unslop.news/
Here is an approach to filtering LLM written content: https://hnslop.nilsherzig.com/
Instead of filtering keywords this ranks the content using Pangram. But it's also pretty effective at filtering content about AI. Turns out that a lot of LLM tooling projects have LLM written project descriptions/blog posts.
It's amazing to see how many of the "AI hurts my brain" posts are apparently written by an LLM.
First post shown right now is https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49659245 which is essentially an ad for an AI company. So I guess this will need further fine tuning.
This is like; during a war, when you just want to read the news without anything about the war :D
I would love to have hn more curated.
The AI spam is part of the issue, but not only. Maybe it's rose tinted glasses, but it feel like HN posts and comments quality have dropped significantly compared to ~5 to 10 years ago.
It used to have a lot more really technical subjects, with comments from experts on the topic.
Now days it seems to be a lot more of "hot takes with little nuance from people who have read at most half a Wikipedia page on the topic". And the content itself, being more generalist and less specialized, is no longer unique to HN.
Quality posts and comments do still occur, but they fill more and more needle in an haystack.
At this rate we would have at least new one vibe coded site like this per week trying to filter AI posts. People truly have tokens to burn
This one actually works: https://elijahpotter.dev/hnsansai
I quite like this, particularly that the filter is just a preset! Will be back.
Minor UI feedback - when navigating comments (and maybe other stuff) with the keyboard, the actual focus change is blocked behind some automated scroll behavior, and the effect is that someone quickly hitting keybinds will collapse the wrong thread. Would suggest making the focus change happen concurrently.
Would if be possible to set up push notifications for new stories matching a filter - one that's separate to the main filter? Like say, I want to get notified every time an article about "Linux" is posted. But if I go to main page, I want to see all stories (or whatever my main filter is set to).
Hacker News, without AI needs to be a plugin for Firefox - I don´t really want to use two pages at the same time.
This feels like trying to do "Hacker News, without 'the Internet.'"
It looks nice but I can't load any comments, and I believe it's because I have Firefox's Enhanced Tracking Protection turned on to the strictest level.
Is it still hacker news if you manipulate the listing based on your own bias?
I suppose it depends on what point of view we answer from. It is very hacker-newsery to make something like this
This is much better than I anticipated. I don't mind AI that much, but this version of HN surfaces really interesting articles I've missed.
There is also the hide button under every post, which I’ve started using generously. It only takes a few seconds to clean up the front page to your taste
still prefer the simplicity of a reverse river, with a focus on votes and comments https://hckrnews.com/
its incredibly easy to immediately tell when something was posted, and how popular it was. there s no automagic rearranging or movement.
similar to https://techmeme.com/river
You need to search deeper!
Looking at the iPod 6G QEMU emulation story:
> "With the help of Claude Code, I was able to create code to extract it using emCORE."
Would have been much better if it simply rendered a blank page.
Top story: huggingface
Just a few high level points about how this works. It works in multiple stages:
It also filters out Github repos that contain AI authorship. My backend scans: RSS feed here: https://hcker.news/feeds/atom?period=day&ai=excludeHN Frontpage minus AI: https://hcker.news/?view=frontpage&ai=exclude
You may also like Small Web HN: https://hcker.news/?view=frontpage&smallweb=include
0: The original workflow for this was a little different. For the better part of the past year, I had an AI agent detect AI-related stories and raise ~20 stories to me to make a judgement call on. After a while, a workflow like this just doesn't make sense when small models can do it equally as well. The training data is based on the machine and my labeling.
Ironically, this is trivial to build with LLMs.
let's fast forward to the part where the general public can make their own "Facebook, without Ads"
Does it use AI to filter AI?
Great use of AI
Good idea but needs a stronger filter
Without Javascript
https://hcker.news/feeds/atom?period=day&ai=exclude
https://hcker.news/feeds/json?period=week&ai=exclude
More info about parameters
https://hcker.news/feeds
We just did this last month;
Stick to sharing your thing in the current thread today:
Ask HN: Can we please limit the AI news flood?
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49657850
I know you guys hate X/Twitter but the muted words feature is really awesome for this kind of thing. You never have to hear about a topic you don't give a crap about ever again.
Do you have one but only with AI? like, a toggle on what side to see?
Edit: ah yes, sure it exists
Finally, I am really sick of eye-based filtering AI trash
I prefer lobste.rs for this.
i can't tell if the slop ui or the slop posts are worse
The first link is about HuggingFace, lmao.
Top article is about AI eliminating jobs, nice attempt tho